A Canadian leaving & returning W/O a Canadian passport

I know it can happen that a Dual citizen (in my case) Canadian & British citizen leaves Canada via air to travel to Europe without a Canadian passport - & returning back with the same ID documents.

My situation is that I have a lost expired Canadian passport - & have no intention of renewing it

My travel ID would consist of a current valid British passport, an older Canadian citizenship card, an Ontario drivers license + Ontario health card & all the proof that I reside in Canada.

Does anyone know from personal experience how the airlines enter my exit from Canada through the airline tracking system & what issues I am likely to encounter returning back through a Canadian airport CBSA entry point (immigration control)?

What will the CBSA agent likely grill me on if anything?

What the airlines do and what CBSA do are completely separate. The airlines' main responsibility is determining if you have the requisite document(s) to be allowed to land at your destination.

The airlines merely use your passport for identification. You will be using the same ID for all legs of your trip, so that will not be an issue.
Since UK citizens do not need a visa to enter canada (nor UK of course), not having any specific documentation in your UK passport upon departure or return will not get you held off the plane (it would if you were from a country requiring a visa, or going to one that did).

At Cdn customs, it will no doubt be beneficial for you to show your Cdn cit card as proof of right to live in canada (your DL and OHIP card are meaningless for that). as long as there is a clear tie between your cit card and your UK passport (ie. no name change), you will be fine.

Thanks for the reply Agnelson - I'm sure this info will help others

I did a google on the API/PNR tracking system & it looks like from the CBSA website that the airlines scan in a passport not just to confirm you have travel documents & who you are, but also for security reasons [I could be mistaken].

It looks as though your destination country [the EU for example] will know you are coming - as well as when you're coming back in either as a Citizen, resident or a foreigner

http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/security-securite ... v-eng.html

By "identification" I meant also security. It is not for entry/exit requirements however, which seems to be more what you are asking about.

By "identification" I meant also security. It is not for entry/exit requirements however, which seems to be more what you are asking about.

Thanks again

Another related queston which I trust you wouldn't mind taking a crack at answering

Suppose I have a one-way flight ticket out of Canada which was booked in the UK using a UK contact address. I leave Canada using my British passport, does Canada know [me as a Canadian citizen or resident] that I have left?

On the basis that I am a retiree, I am leading up to the point that my time away from Canada [could be a short or very long time] where I am still possibly known or seen as being resident for health care & tax purposes.

Does the point I noted in buying a one-way ticket from the UK & leaving Canada on a British passport do exactly what I said - that Canada does not know that I as a citizen or resident have left?

In reverse, on the basis that I was away for six months staying in the EU somewhere - when I return I do so on a two-way return ticket purchased in the UK. When I arrive I show my British passport, my return ticket & tell the CBSA officer that I am here for a month visiting & staying with my children.

Can the CBSA connect the dots

Will it work - if not, why not?

I'n not sure what your intentions are: To be declared non-resident for tax purposes, or resident for Healthcare purposes? which is it.

I'm quite sure there is no link between CBSA and OHIP, if that is what you are asking. How OHIP would track this is beyond me. It may only come up if you would make a claim from overseas.

btw, the absence can be upto 212 days in any 365-day period for OHIP purposes, not 183.

I'll expand this some more ...

As far as the CRA are concerned I am still resident, & I will not declare non resident & continue to file my return from my Canadian address.

The intention ONLY is to see if or how I am tracked, if at all I am tracked in the way I posted.

I shall continue to keep my Canadian address & phone number.

From the way I left/leave Canada (noted in my last post) booking that one-way out ticket in the UK using a UK contact address, then leaving Canada on that ticket with my British passport as though I am from the UK - for all intents and purposes does anyone in any of the government agencies know that as a Canadian resident/citizen that I have left

Suppose i'm out of the country by the method that I described, I then return back to Canada six months later (do this twice a year in the same manner) now with a two way ticket purchased in the UK, enter Canada as a British visitor. While I am here (for a month so) as a Canadian resident I visit the doctor, dentist go about my every day life - even file my yearly tax return (March/April timeframe)as though I have never left

For the record under the circumstances noted - as a Canadian resident, did I ever leave Canada

For the record, probably not. However all provinces seem to be able to find out physical presence; I'm not privy as to how they determine and track physical presence.
yet they are able to detect such cases (otherwise snowbirds would stay out as long as they wish, like you are contemplating).

And, if you spend enough time in UK, for example, you will be considered tax resident there, whereupon Canada could deem you non-resident for tax purposes.

Thanks for that AGN

I have some more thinking to do with regards to if its OK to pay tax in both countries on the basis that I'd be deemed resident in both - or as the Brits say ' are you ordinarily resident or domicile'

On the OHIP part - well, you just never know how they figure it out when someone is out of the country ... I'm guessing it ties back to the exit via passport or car travel across the bridge which is communicated to the province as well as the Fed's.

As far as I know you still don't need a passport to go directly to jamaica and a few other Caribbean countries. And passport tracking is rather new, while physical presence requirements have been around for decades. I'm sure OHIP has other ways.

You would not want to pay both Cdn and UK tax on your income. That would not be worth keeping OHIP. better to just go on NatHealth.