Being a deemed non-resident for canadian Tax purposes

saikrishna
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm

 

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If you have Canadian issued American Express, call American Express and tell them that you need U.S. issued card. They will tell you to cancel your Canadian issued card and then will send you U.S. issued card. American Express is widely accepted in the U.S.
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sparc
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:36 am

 

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I had little trouble when I went to Bank of America a year ago and asked them to look up my Canadian credit history to issue me a credit card, for what that's worth. It might have helped that this was in Silicon Valley and I'm sure they deal with newcomers all the time.

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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:17 am

 

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depends where you are. In smaller cities and towns they may not be so eager to help out a foreigner. Or even know how.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:51 pm

 

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Read this: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/p151/README.html

If you're unsure if you've cut all ties, have a read of Form NR-73.

Credit cards in the US aren't that hard, just get a secured credit card to begin with, or get an Amex in Canada and transfer it to a US one.

However the point I'd make is that it's not entirely wise to cease being a tax resident of Canada if your stay in the US is temporary, have a look at the discussion at: http://www.canuckabroad.com/forums/rrifs-etc-re...-this-vt3797.html

Also, I'd just point out here that what the CRA think is somewhat academic, because it ends up in court if you disagree with them. Case law is that almost any tie makes you resident for tax purposes, the case I remember was the guy who had only an unexpired Ontario DL and some furniture in storage and the tax court ruled he was a resident of Canada for tax purposes, and he had to pay back taxes on all his income while he had been outside Canada.

You can have property, but it must not be your principal residence. You can have a bank account, but you must have declared yourself non-resident so that Part XIII tax is withheld.

Also another tip is to state you left on 31st December as it saves filing two (or possibly three) tax returns for this tax year. Unless of course you're saving a lot of money by moving it earlier.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:55 am

 

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Also, I'd just point out here that what the CRA think is somewhat academic, because it ends up in court if you disagree with them. Case law is that almost any tie makes you resident for tax purposes, the case I remember was the guy who had only an unexpired Ontario DL and some furniture in storage and the tax court ruled he was a resident of Canada for tax purposes, and he had to pay back taxes on all his income while he had been outside Canada.

You can have property, but it must not be your principal residence. You can have a bank account, but you must have declared yourself non-resident so that Part XIII tax is withheld.

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yes, furniture in storage is most likely a tie that makes you a tax resident of Canada for tax purposes as it is a primary tie. That might have done it, although the DL would not help. But I doubt the DL was the main reason.

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man9
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:24 am

 

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Just a question here if any one can answer. I moved to US back at the end of 2005 while my wife moved over in 2006. I called CCRA about becoming non resident and they said you don't really need to fill out the form to declare it. You just need to submit your last Canadian tax form and we did that back in 2005 and 2006 respectively.

I just want to ask people in this forum whether this is ok or not? If not, is it too late for us to look for help for any tax account in Canada? Please advice.

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flames9
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:37 am

 

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I departed Canada to the USA in Dec 2004 on a CR-1 visa. I too called up Revenue Canada, to see what is requuired. they stated just the same--fill out your cdn income tax, and right on the first page there is a spot where you type in the date you ceased to be a Cdn resident. That simple. I closed my Cdn bank accts, except for 1, and I leave less than a $1 in it. There isa form one can fill out--NR-73e, but you dont have to, so why do extra work,lol http://www.sscga.ca/pdf/DeterminationOfResidencyStatus.pdf

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Steven
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:48 am

 

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Well there is no form per se, you just check the box on the T1 that it was your last return and you have left the country. The trick when doing that is to say you left on 31st December otherwise the CRA will pro-rate your personal exemptions.

Also you have to be careful about departure tax, there is a form you have to file declaring what your assets were when you departed. Most people don't get hit with it as it is essentially a capital gains tax that kicks in above $50,000. Most people only have that sort of gain when they sell their house, and real estate is exempt.

You do not need to file a non-resident T1 unless you have Canadian-source income from employment or certain other sources, however simple bank interest for example is exempt from filing, but you must declare to the bank that you are non-resident so they do Part XIII withholding and do not send a T5 to the CRA. If the CRA get a T5 with your SIN on it and no T1 that will cause problems as you owe them money.

Moving your tax home to the US is generally not a good idea unless you plan on staying permanently, but it sounds as though you've already done it so you'll have to cross that bridge when you come to it. (You have to move it if you become a US permanent resident).

If you have an RRSP or other Canadian tax shelter, you must declare it on Form 8891 each year.
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