Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

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wasmeNew Member
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Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:01 pm

Hi,

On a recent trip to the USA, a family member was denied access to the USA and a bunch of notes were typed in by the border officers.

That member of the family has planned a trip later in the spring to the USA and is concerned about getting over the border ok. He feels that if his passport were to be stolen, and a new one issued that the notes that were entered will not be transfered to the new passport - passport numbers?

Is this true? or does anyone else have any advice at how the notes can be legitimately removed.

Thanks for your time.. and I hope my question makes sense..
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StevenCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:08 pm

They don't reference it in their system only by passport number, they use all the information out of the passport. When I was at Sweetgrass a few weeks ago I had some major screw-up with my entry caused by an earlier entry and the CBP guy quizzed me about a visa I had 20 years ago to make sure he had the right person - right off the bat. He even had comments entered in there by INS 20 years ago.

So basically there's no way of fooling them by getting a new passport.
Steve.
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wasmeNew Member
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:25 pm

So having a new passport with new numbers is all linked? Thanks Steve
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:08 pm

They will have record of the previous denial, regardless if your friend gets a new passport or not.

They know. They always know.
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wasmeNew Member
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:57 am

I guess i just dont understand how the US border would know that this is the same person, when it is a new passport - with new numbers,etc.
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StevenCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:26 am

Because they have your name and DOB and your citizenship. How many people with that name and that DOB and that citizenship are there? Obviously passports are renewed from time to time, they know that.
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wasmeNew Member
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:34 am

I see so its not even the fact that the passport has new numbers, its the fact that the everything else is a match.. i understand now.
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:19 am

Yeap, you're still the same you, even with a different passport.
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:22 am

Hi Everyone,

Please bear with me as I REALLY am S.O.L and don't know what to do. I got a response, but I'm looking for more in-dept answers especially about crossing the border again.

Here's the situation:

I am a Canadian citizen. Employed full time in Canada but on approved leave of absence from my job due to medical reasons.

My boyfriend is a Green Card holder and has completed about 85% of his Citizenship application back in 2007?

I've been coming and going into the US for the past 10 years with no problems - and was recently stopped upon re-entry in March. At that time I was moving to another apartment, I posted ads on craigslist to sell all my stuff and all my emails were forwarded to my Blackberry (which I had in my purse). All my mail was being forwarded to a friend and I had them in my purse also. My suitcase was heavy with lots of goodies to bring back to my boyfriend as we're tyring the waters living together and intend on getting married.

ANYWAY...the USCBP officer (I was travelling by land) stopped me, searched all my stuff including my purse and I was denied entry. I was also told that I needed to provide proof of ties to Canada. ( all of which I had ON me at the time, but lied about because I had a legal change of name in Canada but no document to support this and my passport did not reflect the change of name- so I said nothing or fudged that the info was my sisters (stupid, I know but I was caught off guard and didn't want my documents to be confiscated - can they hold my documents?)...I was fingerprinted/hand-cuffed and escorted back to the Canadian border.

I was intending on returning to the US border and presenting all the supporting documents to show change of name as well as the other proof of ties requested. I now live with my family so I don't have a lease agreement.

Question 1: > If I try to re-enter, should I just give my passport or am I supposed to present this rejection information and provide the docs requested - or does the Officer ask you right off the bat once my passport is scanned?

Question 2: > Is there visa my boyfriend and I can apply for BEFORE I attempt to re-enter as we plan on getting married if I make it back to the US.

Question 3: > I was going to try to re-enter and if I get through just get married right away, but then would I still be overstaying while the paper work for my boyfriend to get his Citizenship gets processed?

And lastly...

Question 4: > Can my boyfriend just continue where he left off with his Citizenship application back in 2007 or have the rules changed and he has to start over again?

Again I apoligize as it is lengthy but appreciate any response. I know this seemed funny in retrospect (not funny ha ha, but funny ironic) but it is a serious matter and I don't want to compromise my Citizenship or chances of re-entering the USA. Thanks.
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Re: Canadian Denied Entry - New Passport ?

Post Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:29 am

Please don't cross-post.
This site is a travel site and not best source for these topics:
TN and TD info: http://forums.immigration.com/forumdisp ... -TN-Status
For US/Cdn taxes and SS/CPP:forums.serbinski.com/index.php
US Marriage-based Immigration: visajourney.com
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