Getting back to boyfriend in UK- Irish citizenship?

Hi Everyone,

First just wanted to say thanks for all the info that people have given on the forum . It's brought to light things I didn't even think of. Also, I have some unexpected findings and turns out my pappa isn't from northern Ireland after all he's from southern Ireland... Was really gutted when I found out cause now can't claim UK Ancestry, but now that I've looked over some things am able to apply for a Irish citizenship and passport. Will this let me work and live in the UK without restrictions? or is there a catch to it like having to live in Ireland for a year or something before going to the UK? Or could I just get these, head straight for the UK, live over there with my boyfriend for 5 years and then claim British citizenship?Could I get an NI number through the UK or would I have to go through Ireland? Would I also be able to go on the dole if I needed to (I like working for my money though so the dole would be a last resort).
I really appreciate your help on this, know what evidence I need to prove to register my birth as well, just a matter if this will be a good move to get back to my boyfriend or not.

So to summarize:
1)When I receive my Irish passport can I fly directly to an English airport, and go live with my boyfriend in England? (The only reason why I'm applying for an Irish passport is to go to England and live with him.)
2) Can I work in Britain permanently with my Irish passport?
3) Would I be able to apply for a British NI number? Or would I have to go through the Irish Government?
4)If I had to would I be able to claim tax benefits?(It seems with me getting an Irish passport that I would have all the benefits an Irish citizen would have. Is this true?)
5)Is there some sort of catch to having an Irish passport and living in the UK

Thanks,
Sensitivesoul

No, not if you were then allowed to enter.

Refusal of entry generates a specific legal process that is not triggered even if you are formally detained and then allowed to enter so long as the detention precedes and is associated with the entry.

In other words permission to enter must follow and be related to the attempt to enter for which you were detained.

Cheers

"since I was detained for a short time (maybe 45 minutes) at the border when visiting my boyfriend would I have to write that down/ tell them about it?"

No, not if you were then allowed to enter.

Refusal of entry generates a specific legal process that is not triggered even if you are formally detained and then allowed to enter so long as the detention precedes and is associated with the entry.

In other words permission to enter must follow and be related to the attempt to enter for which you were detained.

Cheers

"since I was detained for a short time (maybe 45 minutes) at the border when visiting my boyfriend would I have to write that down/ tell them about it?"

Ah k gotchya! phew that's good to hear , thanks was a bit worried there for a second.

No, not if you were then allowed to enter.

Refusal of entry generates a specific legal process that is not triggered even if you are formally detained and then allowed to enter so long as the detention precedes and is associated with the entry.

In other words permission to enter must follow and be related to the attempt to enter for which you were detained.

Cheers

"since I was detained for a short time (maybe 45 minutes) at the border when visiting my boyfriend would I have to write that down/ tell them about it?"

Ah k gotchya! phew that's good to hear , thanks was a bit worried there for a second.

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By the way, how do I get the AN Form Booklet? I've tried looking on the home office site but can't find it! It's a bit frustrating.

in the link below when you open it there are 2 pdf's top right of the page

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... alisation/

in the link below when you open it there are 2 pdf's top right of the page

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... alisation/

That's wonderful thank you portico

When you received your Irish passport, you'll be allowed to live and work in the UK under the European Treaty. You don't need any visa to enter, but may be asked to produce a registration certificate by your prospective employer before being hired.

The application is free of charge and the from can be found here: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... /applying/.

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When you received your Irish passport, you'll be allowed to live and work in the UK under the European Treaty. You don't need any visa to enter, but may be asked to produce a registration certificate by your prospective employer before being hired.

The application is free of charge and the from can be found here: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... /applying/.

VisaWise | Immigration Consultancy
OISC Regsitered Advisers
Members of the Quebec Bar
London, United Kingdom
info@visa-wise.co.uk
http://www.visa-wise.co.uk

Oh that's great VisaWise thanks for the help . Will look at the link now thank you.

Hey, just thought I'd chime in, though it seems you've begun the irish passport process.

If your pappa was born in what is now Republic of Ireland before 31 March 1922, you qualify for UK ancestry visa, (5 years in UK)... Though as an irish citizen myself (through my own birth) i'd say stick with the irish passport, it's way cooler
Plus, the Irish passport means you can stay in the UK as long as you want! And, if the economy in ireland ever recovers, work in your homeland!

and to answer some of your more specific questions

So to summarize:
1)When I receive my Irish passport can I fly directly to an English airport.... - YES, be sure to line up in the EU passport line and you will be allowed to enter with no visa etc. Just be honest when they ask what you're there for. My last trip to england on my irish passport they swiped it, looked at me for a second and said "right, NEXT!"

2) Can I work in Britain permanently with my Irish passport? - YES - but you will need a UK NIN#. you will call Job Centre Plus 0845 600 0643 (lines open 8.00 am to 6.00 pm Monday to Friday) to arrange to get one. They ask a few Q's then mail the forms to your UK address.


3) Would I be able to apply for a British NI number? Or would I have to go through the Irish Government? - AS answered above, you need the UK one. if you worked in Ireland you'd get one for Ireland, same as if you worked in France you'd get a french equlivalent.



4)If I had to would I be able to claim tax benefits? - depends what you mean. You're entitled to services like health care like any other resident of UK, but no, you can't go on Irish welfare while you look for a job. You can't even get subsidized irish education until you have lived/worked and paid taxes in ireland for a year (i considered doing my uni in NUI Galway).


5)Is there some sort of catch to having an Irish passport and living in the UK - Perhaps... employers will love the fact you aren't a ticking timebomb (you can work there forever) but I have heard some flak about being irish in the UK.. Use your canadian charms to win them over and the irish passport for the legal stuff.

Hey, just thought I'd chime in, though it seems you've begun the irish passport process.

If your pappa was born in what is now Republic of Ireland before 31 March 1922, you qualify for UK ancestry visa, (5 years in UK)... Though as an irish citizen myself (through my own birth) i'd say stick with the irish passport, it's way cooler
Plus, the Irish passport means you can stay in the UK as long as you want! And, if the economy in ireland ever recovers, work in your homeland!

and to answer some of your more specific questions

So to summarize:
1)When I receive my Irish passport can I fly directly to an English airport.... - YES, be sure to line up in the EU passport line and you will be allowed to enter with no visa etc. Just be honest when they ask what you're there for. My last trip to england on my irish passport they swiped it, looked at me for a second and said "right, NEXT!"

2) Can I work in Britain permanently with my Irish passport? - YES - but you will need a UK NIN#. you will call Job Centre Plus 0845 600 0643 (lines open 8.00 am to 6.00 pm Monday to Friday) to arrange to get one. They ask a few Q's then mail the forms to your UK address.


3) Would I be able to apply for a British NI number? Or would I have to go through the Irish Government? - AS answered above, you need the UK one. if you worked in Ireland you'd get one for Ireland, same as if you worked in France you'd get a french equlivalent.



4)If I had to would I be able to claim tax benefits? - depends what you mean. You're entitled to services like health care like any other resident of UK, but no, you can't go on Irish welfare while you look for a job. You can't even get subsidized irish education until you have lived/worked and paid taxes in ireland for a year (i considered doing my uni in NUI Galway).


5)Is there some sort of catch to having an Irish passport and living in the UK - Perhaps... employers will love the fact you aren't a ticking timebomb (you can work there forever) but I have heard some flak about being irish in the UK.. Use your canadian charms to win them over and the irish passport for the legal stuff.

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Cool wow , thanks a lot claviclekiss! Good to hear they don't give you much hassle at the airport. The NIN sounds easy to get too . By benefits I meant benefits that I could get to help me out if I don't make enough money with the part time job I'm (hopefully) getting when I get there. Though I'd only take it as a last resort it would be good to know I could get a little help if needed .

Hmm ah k gotchya! Thanks for the heads up about the employers, will definitely keep that in mind. Hehe I will give my Canadian charms a try lol, you never know right?

I Have another question for you too if you don't mind? What's your experience with departure tax? Not exactly sure how to go about it or what it entails . I Have been looking at some of the info lately for it and it just confuses me after a while lol.