Has anyone renewed their TN after marrying an American?

Canadian Expats and travelers in the USA can communicate with each other here!

Moderators: Reba, visaplace.com

fiestagirlCanuckAbroad Regular
Topic author
Posts: 36
Topics: 1
Joined: 23 Aug 2008

Has anyone renewed their TN after marrying an American?

Post Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:50 pm

I am currently on a TN, planning to marry my American spouse. Since TN's are valid now for 3 years, I'd like to renew it but we'll be married by the time I renew it. We don't intend on residing in the US permanently; perhaps for the next 2-3 years and then we plan on moving to Canada. My intent is not to immigrate here.

Any advice or feedback?
Top
StevenCanuckAbroad VIP
Posts: 3635
Topics: 2
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Location: Calgary

Re: Has anyone renewed their TN after marrying an American?

Post Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:51 pm

There have been a couple of people on here married to Americans who managed to renew or get a TN-1, it appears to depend on how dozy the CBP person is who processes the application (or travel without your spouse and it never occurs to them to ask the question).

Obviously if you show up with an American spouse at the POE and they pull out a US passport, you're potentially going to have some tough explaining to do as to how you have "non-immigrant intent". But it does seem to be luck of the draw. Certainly with some of the land border POEs back east they would definitely make an issue of it going by the various comments on here. Even getting in as a B-2 visitor with a US spouse is tricky.

From the sounds of it you do have non-immigrant intent even though you are married to an American so legally there is no reason not to grant you TN-1. So be convincing if the subject comes up would be the best advice.

Bear in mind that it only takes three years to get US citizenship after getting LPR status in the US after you get married (and LPR status takes about a year) so you may want to just do an AOS anyway and become a permanent resident, get US citizenship and then move back to Canada and sponsor your husband. That way if you decide to move back to the US at some future point it's no big deal. The only real downside to doing that is the US foreign tax credit cap, i.e. if you earn over US$87,600 you have to pay US taxes on it, even if you live and work in Canada.

Your taxes are going to be interesting, presumably you file as a non-resident and he has to file as a resident. Legally you can do this if you are on TN-1 but it means you can't file jointly. Although a spouse is usually considered a residential tie for tax purposes so I think you can only do that for the first year if you meet the "substantial presence test". Hmm, maybe you could file as non-resident if you filed a tax treaty claim on 8833 as TN-1 comes from NAFTA so technically it is the "Supreme Law of the Land". Bit of a grey area.
Steve.
Top
fiestagirlCanuckAbroad Regular
Topic author
Posts: 36
Topics: 1
Joined: 23 Aug 2008

Re: Has anyone renewed their TN after marrying an American?

Post Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:05 am

I think it is the luck of the draw of the CBP officer you get. When I got my TN, he was just my boyfriend but he accompanied me when we drove to the border to ask for TN status. I wouldn't say I had a hassle, just lots of questions about who we were to each other and when/how we met. I was very straightforward and they processed me through without a problem. They knew I lived with him but didn't really say much.

Thanks for the feedback Steven!
Top
RebaModerator
Posts: 2561
Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Location: North Carolina

Re: Has anyone renewed their TN after marrying an American?

Post Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:41 am

A guy I know on another immigration forum who used to work for US CBP at a Canada border crossing said that if you have a US spouse you are not eligible for a TN renewal. So if the question comes up (and it likely will if you change your name and all the other things married women sometimes do), your TN will be denied.

If you can PROVE without a doubt that you do not intend to settle in the US, they may give you another TN. But that's a big if.

When does your current TN expire? You may be better off as Steven suggested to forgoe the next TN and just apply to adjust status, get a green card, then decide from there if you also want US citizenship to reduce further hassles with immigration should you decide to move back in a few years.

For marriage based immigration info see http://www.visajourney.com
Top
StevenCanuckAbroad VIP
Posts: 3635
Topics: 2
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Location: Calgary

Re: Has anyone renewed their TN after marrying an American?

Post Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:25 pm

Certainly your taxes would be easier if you became an LPR.

TN-1 is quite messy from a tax standpoint, I mentioned it in passing to an IRS person I was talking to and the more we examined the subject the more confused we got and he's decided to contact the State Dept. for clarification on the NAFTA treaty. None of the IRS publications mention it.
Steve.
Top

Did you enjoy this post? Share it!

 
  • Related topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest