Is "Application Engineer" qualified for a TN

et209
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:40 am

 

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I have a degree in Control and Automation. But my job title is "Application Engineer". I thought I could apply under "Engineering" category. But I couldnt find anything specific about "Application Engineer" in Dot job description.
Actually, my company's product is for Automation industry. They want to bring me on board exactly because of my control and automation background. But I don't know if the officer is gonna be convinced, cause it's not as straightforward as those, for example, electronics engineers or civil engineers. What if he/she cannot find this job title in the handbook? Am I going to be turn away?

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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:13 pm

 

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lbhl
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:17 am

 

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Hi, buddy.

Are you Chinese? I know there's no major named Control and Automation both in US and Canada. If yes I may help you. PP me.

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gthava
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:56 pm

 

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Hi there,

I haven't been reading this site since I left the US in July this year. I was a controls engineer in the US. You can get a job letter/offer letter and a separate letter for Department of home land securities/INS. In that the letter should state the description of the job, your qualification, your salary, nature of the business the company does, etc has to be very clear to the boarder person. Very impertinently the letter should say that it's a temporary position not exceeding one year. But you can extend the visa after a year. Also, you should have an engineering degree (must). If it outside of North America, then it has to be evaluated in Canada/USA and state that the degree is equal to a B.Sc. or M.Sc. in the USA/Canada.

Hope it helps.

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Christopher G. Rizzo, Esq
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:43 am

 

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Any Engineering discipline is subsumed under the NAFTA Engineer profession. I don't know if you qualify based on the facts you have presented, it depends on your coursework and whether a credentials evaluation service would find that the degree is the academic equivalent to a B Eng (or related degree) in Canada or U.S. How many engineering courses did you complete?
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kevinlg
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:33 am

 

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I kind of wonder the same too.
I have a US BS in Electrical Eng. and have a job offer title Application Engineer. The company makes Wafer inspection/ testing equipment machine.
There aren't nothing call Application Enginner Major in US. I wonder will they reject me because of the Eng. field mismatch.
Not sure if they are clever enough to figure that inspection equipment is actually robot that means it requires Electrical knowledge. Furthermore it is geared for wafer / electrical device which requires an Elec. Eng. as well.


The description in DOT is

CODE: 007.061-038Buy the DOT:Download/CD-ROM
TITLE(s): APPLICATIONS ENGINEER, MANUFACTURING (profess. & kin.)

Plans, designs, and coordinates integration of machinery and equipment into manufacturing process of industrial establishment, applying knowledge of engineering and programming, and using computer, precision-measuring instruments, and drafting tools: Develops and writes equipment specifications, performance requirements, cost analysis, and proposal for integrating machinery and equipment, such as robots, robot controllers, and programmable controllers into manufacturing process, applying knowledge of mechanics, hydraulics, pneumatics, electrical wiring, electronics, programming, and manufacturing requirements, and using computer and calculator. Selects or designs robot end-of-arm tools to meet specifications, using robot manuals and either drafting tools or computer and software programs. Writes operating programs, using existing computer program, or writes own computer programs, applying knowledge of programming language and computer. Oversees installation to ensure machines and equipment are installed and functioning according to specifications. Tests ability of machines, such as robot, to perform tasks, using teach pendant and precision measuring instruments and following specifications. Confers with establishment personnel to implement operating procedures and resolve system malfunctions. Determines parts supply, maintenance tasks, safety procedures, and service schedule required to maintain machines and equipment in prescribed condition. Develops models of alternate processing methods to test feasibility of new applications of system components, and recommends implementation of improved procedures. Participates in meetings, seminars, and training sessions to stay apprised of new developments in field. Confers with workers in other departments, such as marketing, legal, and engineering, to provide technical information. May develop and conduct robot and related equipment training programs and demonstrate skills to trainees, using teach pendant, handtools, precision-measuring instruments, and following schematics, plant drawings, and manufacturer's specifications.
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Christopher G. Rizzo, Esq
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:46 am

 

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An applications engineer is an electronics engineer, don't get caught up in job titles, they don't mean much, the job duties always control. The electrical engineering degree qualifies you for the position.
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kevinlg
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:31 pm

 

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Ok.
Chris,
I understand title does not matter and the job duties matter the most. After a lots of reading about TN and successfully acquired one myself, I have some questions about the Engineering Definition in TN. I searched around and there are no such a rule that sub-defined the Engr category or even list the eligible Engr job function and their degree match.

And Since any sort of engineer can diverge into a lot of minor discipline, what is the TN officer looking for in offer letter description.

I doubt they will know all the details and the minor fields of a particular Engr or even specifically understand some key terms in the offer letter. For instance, CMOS =complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor. It is well known and common within the field but probably not in others.
Another thought is that Engr ,specifically, Electrical Engineering can diverge (job duties wise not title), Application Engineer, Design Engineer, Hardware Engr, Semi Conductor Device Engineer, product engineer, Control Engineer etc.list can go up to thirty of them.

Here is my question:

Does your Engineering Degree has to be at least 90% in sync with the job duties?
i.e.
Let say, degree is Electrical Engr, your job description has to at least mention once in Electrical / Electronic.

But EE does not only due with stuff that starts with Elec, some deal with materials such as semi-conductor through their course work. It will be logical for EE who concentrate in material to go to a material Engineering position, instead of a Circuit Design job.

Are there any constraint over which discipline of Engineer job you are doing? There are always overlap and various job duties that does not say Electrical but requires the EE skill.

Anyone has some thought about this

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