Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

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misterbigCanuckAbroad RegularUser avatar
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:08 pm

dannykool wrote:Let the poster experience it first-hand. I think you have gotten into cost of living, icons, visiting and other irrelevant issues which do not form part of the question. He will come back and give you first-hand feedback. Sorry to cut you off but I would prefer if we stick to the topic on hand.


Exactly my point. The first two replies to the poster by possums and myself addressed the OP's question. Then you who I assume are not living in Australia jump in with your comment about how Google will show how racist Australia's history is.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:36 am

dannykool wrote:Spend some time in BC and Alberta and you'll see how racists people really are - behind your back.


Alberta used to be really racist, but it's mellowed a lot. There was a white supremacist who tried handing out flyers in Prince's Island Park a couple of years ago and that didn't work out too well for him, loads of complaints and he was arrested for inciting racial hatred.

BC isn't racist imx. No idea where that concept comes from. Maybe back in ye olde days of the head tax but not lately. The only complaints I ever hear about race in BC are the Chinese gangsters who control the drugs trade.

If I was to think of somewhere that wasn't racially tolerant in Canada actually it would be Ontario because of all that fuss in Caledonia.

Frankly I think Canada is probably the most racially tolerant country in the world (with the possible exception of Brazil), I remember seeing something in the paper from Statistics Canada about how Canada has the most interracial marriages in the G7.

Certainly there's nothing to compare with stuff like the Australia First party or the assaults on people of Lebanese decent at the beach near Sydney.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:56 am

If I was to think of somewhere that wasn't racially tolerant in Canada actually it would be Ontario because of all that fuss in Caledonia.

Frankly I think Canada is probably the most racially tolerant country in the world (with the possible exception of Brazil), I remember seeing something in the paper from Statistics Canada about how Canada has the most interracial marriages in the G7.

Certainly there's nothing to compare with stuff like the Australia First party or the assaults on people of Lebanese decent at the beach near Sydney.[/quote]
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:32 pm

To base Australia's level of racism on a few events between the Lebanese and Australian's at Cronulla is unfair. I am in no way condoning the Caucasian Australian's actions but they acted in retaliation to numerous racists attacks of Lebanese on Australian's. Several different cases of gang rape where a white Australian girl was singled out and racist remarks where made during the ordeal, and many members high up in the Lebanese community making false statements that the victims consented to the pack rape and they deserved it because of their non Muslim ways.

The tension was growing for years and years and a few attacks on some Australian businesses was the breaking point. I am friends with many Lebanese Australians who are appalled at the behaviour of the Lebanese and as an Australian I am appalled at the behaviour of the Caucasian Australians, the whole of Australia wasn't sitting here watching the protests and backing them, we were all just as shocked as the rest of the world who may have seen these protests.

There is racism in just about every country you will visit.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:31 pm

Exactly possums, but you can't argue with people who don't live in Sydney (never hung out in Cronulla) and who think everything there is to know can be learned from Google and the media.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:00 pm

I've worked/studied with many different types of Indians (Canadian-Indians, American-Indians, British-Indians, Indian-Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) etc. Most of them have found Australia in general to be very tolerant. Some have had issues, but probably about the same level that they had as immigrants to their adopted countries (ie Canada/UK/US etc.)

Some actually found that culturally Australia was a lot closer to their native culture then North America was (cricket, indian food etc.) They were pretty happy that they could get things like Tandoori chicken wraps at mcdonalds and that there were good indian restaurants around.

I suppose your experience will be coloured by the level of racism you personally experienced in Toronto vs. what you experience in Oz. But in general I doubt that there's really anything that should mitigate your decision to move to Oz.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:11 am

soulseeker wrote:I am a Canadian citizen of Indian origin currently living in Toronto and my wife works as a nurse in Sydney. I have decided to move to Sydney but have heard about racism towards Indians and this worries me. I am also worried about whether we will ever be able to afford a house as Sydney is so damn expensive. What are the job prospects like for IT professionals? I will be sponsored under my wife's visa. Please give me some advice/suggestions.



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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 38,00.html

Do a google search to see the recent attacks on people of your community and origin. It has made headlines and may be of interest to you since you are of Indian origin.

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Steven wrote:
dannykool wrote:Spend some time in BC and Alberta and you'll see how racists people really are - behind your back.


Frankly I think Canada is probably the most racially tolerant country in the world (with the possible exception of Brazil), I remember seeing something in the paper from Statistics Canada about how Canada has the most interracial marriages in the G7.

Certainly there's nothing to compare with stuff like the Australia First party or the assaults on people of Lebanese decent at the beach near Sydney.



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Yes, Steven there is nothing to compare with stuff like this..

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 38,00.html

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misterbig wrote:
dannykool wrote:Let the poster experience it first-hand. I think you have gotten into cost of living, icons, visiting and other irrelevant issues which do not form part of the question. He will come back and give you first-hand feedback. Sorry to cut you off but I would prefer if we stick to the topic on hand.


Exactly my point. The first two replies to the poster by possums and myself addressed the OP's question. Then you who I assume are not living in Australia jump in with your comment about how Google will show how racist Australia's history is.


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Sure, I get your point about not focusing on Australia's racist history and their roots.

Let's even forget the Lebanese incident...one -off.

So let's focus on the present...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indi ... 730084.cms

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possums wrote:To base Australia's level of racism on a few events between the Lebanese and Australian's at Cronulla is unfair. Caucasian Australians, the whole of Australia wasn't sitting here watching the protests and backing them, we were all just as shocked as the rest of the world who may have seen these protests.

There is racism in just about every country you will visit.



Yes but this kind of violent racism is in just about every country you will visit ? I don't think so...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indi ... 730084.cms
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:44 am

This is a clash between people of Lebanese origin and students of Indian origin: http://www.smh.com.au/national/indians- ... -c2ei.html

Some of these Lebanese perpetrators might hold Australian passports but that's as Australian as they get.

In Vancouver, our RCMP will taser you if you don't speak English and then they'll lie and cover it up when you're dead: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVN ... lumbiaHome

Judged by this Vancouver incident, racism goes to highest level in our Canadian government. We have no tolerance for people who don't speak our language. While most Canadians are outraged with the death of this Polish immigrant, no one is rioting on the streets or shutting down government services - yeah, it sucks ... time to go grab a Tim Horton's.

And the mighty British empire that spawned Canada & Australia have discovered that discrimination is alive and well in Britain - good luck finding work if you don't sound white: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 638377.ece
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:58 am

misterbig wrote:This is a clash between people of Lebanese origin and students of Indian origin: http://www.smh.com.au/national/indians- ... -c2ei.html

Some of these Lebanese perpetrators might hold Australian passports but that's as Australian as they get.

In Vancouver, our RCMP will taser you if you don't speak English and then they'll lie and cover it up when you're dead: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVN ... lumbiaHome

Judged by this Vancouver incident, racism goes to highest level in our Canadian government. We have no tolerance for people who don't speak our language. While most Canadians are outraged with the death of this Polish immigrant, no one is rioting on the streets or shutting down government services - yeah, it sucks ... time to go grab a Tim Horton's.

And the mighty British empire that spawned Canada & Australia have discovered that discrimination is alive and well in Britain - good luck finding work if you don't sound white: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 638377.ece


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81 attacks on indians in australia...mostly by white aussies...stay away from this place !

Nice try misterbig...I like your tendency to fight and never give up...
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Post Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:23 am

dannykool wrote:
misterbig wrote:81 attacks on indians in australia...mostly by white aussies...stay away from this place !

Nice try misterbig...I like your tendency to fight and never give up...


Stay away from this place? What is a white aussie? Are Lebanese white? The beauty of forums is that it allows ignorant people who've never lived in Australia to criticize Australian people based on what they've read in the news. Stop being so racist dannykool.
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