Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby dannykool » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:11 am

soulseeker wrote:I am a Canadian citizen of Indian origin currently living in Toronto and my wife works as a nurse in Sydney. I have decided to move to Sydney but have heard about racism towards Indians and this worries me. I am also worried about whether we will ever be able to afford a house as Sydney is so damn expensive. What are the job prospects like for IT professionals? I will be sponsored under my wife's visa. Please give me some advice/suggestions.



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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 38,00.html

Do a google search to see the recent attacks on people of your community and origin. It has made headlines and may be of interest to you since you are of Indian origin.

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dannykool wrote:Spend some time in BC and Alberta and you'll see how racists people really are - behind your back.


Frankly I think Canada is probably the most racially tolerant country in the world (with the possible exception of Brazil), I remember seeing something in the paper from Statistics Canada about how Canada has the most interracial marriages in the G7.

Certainly there's nothing to compare with stuff like the Australia First party or the assaults on people of Lebanese decent at the beach near Sydney.



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Yes, Steven there is nothing to compare with stuff like this..

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 38,00.html

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dannykool wrote:Let the poster experience it first-hand. I think you have gotten into cost of living, icons, visiting and other irrelevant issues which do not form part of the question. He will come back and give you first-hand feedback. Sorry to cut you off but I would prefer if we stick to the topic on hand.


Exactly my point. The first two replies to the poster by possums and myself addressed the OP's question. Then you who I assume are not living in Australia jump in with your comment about how Google will show how racist Australia's history is.


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Sure, I get your point about not focusing on Australia's racist history and their roots.

Let's even forget the Lebanese incident...one -off.

So let's focus on the present...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indi ... 730084.cms

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possums wrote:To base Australia's level of racism on a few events between the Lebanese and Australian's at Cronulla is unfair. Caucasian Australians, the whole of Australia wasn't sitting here watching the protests and backing them, we were all just as shocked as the rest of the world who may have seen these protests.

There is racism in just about every country you will visit.



Yes but this kind of violent racism is in just about every country you will visit ? I don't think so...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indi ... 730084.cms
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby misterbig » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:44 am

This is a clash between people of Lebanese origin and students of Indian origin: http://www.smh.com.au/national/indians- ... -c2ei.html

Some of these Lebanese perpetrators might hold Australian passports but that's as Australian as they get.

In Vancouver, our RCMP will taser you if you don't speak English and then they'll lie and cover it up when you're dead: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVN ... lumbiaHome

Judged by this Vancouver incident, racism goes to highest level in our Canadian government. We have no tolerance for people who don't speak our language. While most Canadians are outraged with the death of this Polish immigrant, no one is rioting on the streets or shutting down government services - yeah, it sucks ... time to go grab a Tim Horton's.

And the mighty British empire that spawned Canada & Australia have discovered that discrimination is alive and well in Britain - good luck finding work if you don't sound white: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 638377.ece
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby dannykool » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:58 am

misterbig wrote:This is a clash between people of Lebanese origin and students of Indian origin: http://www.smh.com.au/national/indians- ... -c2ei.html

Some of these Lebanese perpetrators might hold Australian passports but that's as Australian as they get.

In Vancouver, our RCMP will taser you if you don't speak English and then they'll lie and cover it up when you're dead: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVN ... lumbiaHome

Judged by this Vancouver incident, racism goes to highest level in our Canadian government. We have no tolerance for people who don't speak our language. While most Canadians are outraged with the death of this Polish immigrant, no one is rioting on the streets or shutting down government services - yeah, it sucks ... time to go grab a Tim Horton's.

And the mighty British empire that spawned Canada & Australia have discovered that discrimination is alive and well in Britain - good luck finding work if you don't sound white: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 638377.ece


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81 attacks on indians in australia...mostly by white aussies...stay away from this place !

Nice try misterbig...I like your tendency to fight and never give up...
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby misterbig » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:23 am

dannykool wrote:
misterbig wrote:81 attacks on indians in australia...mostly by white aussies...stay away from this place !

Nice try misterbig...I like your tendency to fight and never give up...


Stay away from this place? What is a white aussie? Are Lebanese white? The beauty of forums is that it allows ignorant people who've never lived in Australia to criticize Australian people based on what they've read in the news. Stop being so racist dannykool.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby dannykool » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:34 am

misterbig wrote:
dannykool wrote:
misterbig wrote:81 attacks on indians in australia...mostly by white aussies...stay away from this place !

Nice try misterbig...I like your tendency to fight and never give up...


Stay away from this place? What is a white aussie? Are Lebanese white? The beauty of forums is that it allows ignorant people who've never lived in Australia to criticize Australian people based on what they've read in the news. Stop being so racist dannykool.


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You need to read the news to see what happened in these racially motivated attacks...and some of this needs to be really taken up by the Indian govt, I would say.

These kind of attacks are unforgivable...the best approach would be for the attacked Indians to strike back at these attackers. Give it to them !

There is likely to be an exodus of students from 'this place'.

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Stay away from this place? What is a white aussie? Are Lebanese white? The beauty of forums is that it allows ignorant people who've never lived in Australia to criticize Australian people based on what they've read in the news. Stop being so racist dannykool.[/quote]

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indeed the beauty of forums is that it can allow placing of links...

http://www.cpiml.org/liberation/year_20 ... ure_1.html

Man, the more i read...the scarier it gets.

But yes, this is not the only country it happens in...it could happen anywhere...but so many incidents (81 !) in 3 months...I have no idea what is the motive behind physical attacks like this ?

Misterbig might know.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby misterbig » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:55 am

What's your motive since you're not Australian and have not lived in Sydney recently? According to your profile, you live in Europe, so you're not a current Canadian either. How about instead of just reading the news you actually live in the places you're discussing. Places change and there's no substitute for real life experience my boy.

I and other Canuck/Aussie posters who live in Sydney have posted our response, but you've chosen to only believe what the internet digs up. Hey, it's cheaper than actually travelling and seeing for yourself right?
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby dannykool » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:18 am

misterbig wrote:What's your motive since you're not Australian and have not lived in Sydney recently? According to your profile, you live in Europe, so you're not a current Canadian either. How about instead of just reading the news you actually live in the places you're discussing. Places change and there's no substitute for real life experience my boy.

I and other Canuck/Aussie posters who live in Sydney have posted our response, but you've chosen to only believe what the internet digs up. Hey, it's cheaper than actually travelling and seeing for yourself right?

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Motive is to make people like the poster aware what is going on. Current Canadian or not, I have my reasons.

Real life experience is important you right there. But these kind of attacks...it is cheaper to read. I don't want Asian Indians as the original poster is to experience these kind of attacks.

This is not about Sydney. It's about the attacks. Not a one-off.

Overall the place might be ok. But it is now up to the Indian government to take charge. And the Indian students need to give back some of this.

I think you will agree that these attackers need to be hit back at some point as self-defense.

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[quote="misterbig"]What's your motive since you're not Australian and have not lived in Sydney recently? According to your profile, you live in Europe, so you're not a current Canadian either. How about instead of just reading the news you actually live in the places you're discussing. Places change and there's no substitute for real life experience my boy.

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Oh by the way, the forum is Canuck abroad so one does not have to be a 'current Canadian'. One can reside anywhere in the world.
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Re: Racism in Sydney? should I be worried?

Postby possums » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:49 pm

Google said I might have cancer but it turned out to be a common cold. :lol: Don't believe everything you read on the internet. If you don't like Australia then don't come here, easy as that.
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