So, you want to move to the States eh?

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DremaniCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:10 pm

My friend who is a technical writer was asked the first time she applied for her TN how she found a job if she was "only visiting". She told them which is true that a friend of her boyfriend was mentioning that the insurance company she works for needs an experienced tech writer with a BA in communications. Since my friend was unable to gain employment in Ontario in this field, she was able to land an interview with the company eventually getting the job. The company liked her so much they decided to keep her indefinately and now she holds a GC.

While some things just happen to be circumstantial, she was questioned as to how and why she was able to land employment while being a "visitor". So Reba is right in a sense and so is agnelson.
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lawsrlawsCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:32 pm

This is another case of "your both right".

It is technically illegal to enter the USA to look for employment. With that said, it is fine to come to the USA for an interview to obtain a job.

Whats the difference? A planned interview with a company is professional and usually never questioned, its acceptable. On the other hand, coming to the USA as a Visitor and exploring the counrty in search of employment, is frowned upon. (your not a visitor) Has anyone ever been refused a TN because they found work when on vacation.....I doubt it. Can it happen, yes.
Does it piss off the Officer.....yes. Officers questioning someone how they found a job when only visiting is valid, but probably will not result in a refusal.
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:20 pm

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StevenCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:38 am

agnelson wrote:Finding a job in the US is not wrongdoing. C'mon Reba. You do realize that one is even allowed to go on an sheduled interview while on B2?


B-1. You can attend a pre-arranged interview because that is considered a business meeting, but entering to look for work is illegal.
Steve.
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agnelsonCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:44 am

Yes, B1 -- undocumented, of course (no I-94). Thanks for the "clarification".
This site is a travel site and not best source for these topics:
TN and TD info: http://forums.immigration.com/forumdisp ... -TN-Status
For US/Cdn taxes and SS/CPP:forums.serbinski.com/index.php
US Marriage-based Immigration: visajourney.com
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Alexandra86New Member
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:11 pm

Hi there,

I'm a 23 year old Marketing Graduate (College Diploma) but currently working in the insurance industry as a licensed insurance broker. I am determined to move to the states one way or the other. Here's my deal:

- I was born in Russia and qualify to play in Green Card Lottery. So here's my one in a million chance.

- I could go to college in LA - they require you to have $15,000 as you enter. But, as everyone says I cannot really work legally unless i get a cash job and get myself in trouble.

- I have no problem finding a job who will sponsor me in the insurance OR marketing industry. The problem is there is nothing on that TN list about insurance brokers or marketing coordinators. I have a friend in US that owns a decent sized company and wants to sponsor me. Will they turn me down with my Marketing Diploma and insurance brokers license? Is there any other visa i can apply for with my qualifications?

And also, if that wouldnt work.... I heard of a disaster relief insurance claims adjuster occupation that is approved for TN Visa. I could go to school for claims adjusting - but i never heard of Disaster Relief adjusting here in Toronto and have NO idea where to even apply to school for that specific field!!

I've started my research and your thread has been of much help to me! I was gonna go to the lawyer but again... do not want to pay for nothing. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. :)
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RebaModerator
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:51 pm

if you qualify for the green card lottery, why not apply?
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Alexandra86New Member
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:53 am

Reba,

I am applying. So is the rest of my family. But as i said, I am not sure how big the chance of winning is.

I was thinking of applying for TN visa as well, b/c i could find a job to sponsor me, but "marketing diploma" is not on the list of acceptable professions and i would like to know if there is a loophole i can go around this list?

Thats why i kind of feel confused. WOuld my other option be to sign up for a management consultant or hotel manager classes? (those ARE on the list)
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MCCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:23 pm

Your chances for TN with just a Marketing diploma are slim to none, as you have discovered studying the list of eligible NAFTA occupations. Your chance of obtaining an H1B is reasonable down the road if you can acquire some additional work experience.

There are no TN-1 loopholes, you either have the education or you don't. If your wish is to pursue opportunities via NAFTA, then your best bet is to study the list wisely and acquire additional education to meet eligibility requirements.

For Hotel Manager, you will require at least a diploma (in the field) and 3 years of related work experience or a baccalaureate degree in Hotel/Restaurant Management.
MC
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DremaniCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: So, you want to move to the States eh?

Post Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:17 pm

My advice would be to obtain a Bachelor degree. They are very tough at the border in regards to education and experience when applying for a TN.

Just a curious question? Why the extreme determination to move to the U.S.? For a marketing position, Canada isn't that bad but then again it depends on where in Canada you live. I have quite a few friends in marketing positions in Toronto and they're doing quite well.

And the green card lottery is very backlogged as one of my inlaws were looking into it. It takes many years to see any sort of approval IF you get selected.
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