Tax Advice? Living in US while owning property in Canada

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WordbirdNew Member
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Tax Advice? Living in US while owning property in Canada

Post Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:00 pm

Hi! Upon moving to the US, did most of you here sell your property and cash out your RRSPs, before declaring yourself a non-resident?

I'm a Canadian who just eloped and married my US citizen husband. I still have a condo in Toronto that will be finished being built in October (bought pre-construction), as well as bank accounts, credit cards and RRSPs.

I haven't been earning an income since May, when I quit my job to work on my book (I'm a writer) and it looks like I won't be legal to work here in the US for another 3 - 6 months, at least.

Is it necessarily advantageous to apply for non-resident status if I'm not earning a salary? And if I do so, is it better to take out my RRSPs and sell my condo before I do, to avoid the non-resident with-holding tax of 25%?

Any advice or referrals to a tax specialist who is familiar with Canadian tax laws in the greater Chicago area would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks much! I'm new and so pardon if this is a question that's already been posted, but I did searches and nothing really came up for me.
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Post Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:31 pm

There was a similar question a few days ago, have a search for it on here regards the RRSPs, basically you don't need to cash them out but once you are US resident it is a bad idea to continue to contribute to them.

If you are leaving to reside permanently in the US (i.e. you have applied for permanent residency status) you MUST pay US income tax as the tax treaty does not apply. This means you must become non-resident from Canada, which means for the CRA not to come after you, you must sever all ties, i.e. change your DL, get rid of your health card, have no address in Canada, etc. (you can have a Canadian bank account but it must be under a US address and you must pay Part XIII non-resident witholding tax on any interest, which is a flat 10%).

Also you may be subject to the "exit tax", which is another way Canada tries to stop you leaving, read about it on the CRA non-residents website.

Read this also: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/p151/README.html

Having a condo in Toronto does complicate things. Technically if you were a US resident who just happened to have a holiday home in Canada it wouldn't be a problem, but given that you are a Canadian who only just left it makes it appear as though you are still resident. CRA may consider that a "residential tie" for tax purposes, especially if you actually spend time there during the year.

So yeah, I'd find a good cross-border accountant if I were you.
Steve.
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Post Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:08 am

There is an accounting firm called Serbinski that does cross border tax issues. Google them. I've heard mixed reviews of their services, but they also have a message forum so you may be able to find some info at least.
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WordbirdNew Member
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Post Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:57 am

Thanks, Steven and Reba, for your replies.

I saw the posting on RRSPs (I had maxed out my RRSPs last year when I sold my previous place) but wondered if it makes sense just to cash them out.

I will look through Serbinski forum - I've come across the website before in my google searches but hadn't looked through the forum.

Thanks, again!
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Re: Tax Advice? Living in US while owning property in Canada

Post Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:41 am

We've lived and worked in the US for 8 years now. I'm not a lawyer or tax accountant so my first advice is to seek out a quality cross-border tax accountant to ensure any financial or real estate moves you make or are considering aren't going to put you in a bad situation. It's often more work to ensure you're doing things right, but the consequences of not doing so are just too great and not worth it.
In our 8 years here there has been an increase in scrutiny regarding finances of non-resident aliens, to be expected, as an on-going result of 9-11. The bottom line is that when you move to the US, you must sever all ties with Canada. This means, as was mentioned before, no additional contributions to existing RRSP's, health care etc. You can however own property, maintain your Canadian bank account, and retain all RRSP accounts. You must by law instituted this 2009 tax year in the US, provide information on all bank accounts outside the US.
You can own and rent a property in Canada while living in the US but you will have to file a Canadian tax return to claim any prfit from rental fees etc. This is where deferring you to a qualified and experienced tax accountant is imperative. We're in a similar situation where we would like to purchase a home back in Canada as an investment property for now and with the goal of moving back when that time comes. We'll be going the tax accountant route too.
I hope this helps......
Alan
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