TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

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denisQCNew Member
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TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:32 pm

Cheers to all, a ton of useful info here. Here is my question: A few weeks ago I was denied entry and allowed to withdraw my app to enter the US due to "immigrant intent" and an "overstay for longer than 180 days/less than one year", as per codes scribbled on the back page of my Canadian passport. I lived in the States for a long time, and just did not know I needed to re-enter/change status after my H1B expired the summer of last year. So i was coming back from a short trip to Europe to negotiate a contract with a US firm that wants to hire me as a TN, and all the papers are ready now. Intend to apply for TN at the airport here in Montreal, the papers are all in tip-top shape. The question is, what are the chances of this succeeding and/or what are the alternatives? The officers who denied entry were not nice at all, and did not give me any advice as to how to proceed. Thanks much in advance.
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:17 pm

The fact that you were previously denied entry due to an overstay will seriously jeopardize any future attempts at getting a TN or other US visa. Since you overstayed on a work permit before, they probably won't issue you a new permit knowing that you could potentially overstay again. I would recommend that you consult with an immigration attorney for advice on how to proceed.
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StevenCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:40 am

If you've been denied entry then you haven't been banned, so you can re-try, but you might want to try a land POE so you don't waste money on a plane ticket. Drive down to Champlain. The other advantage is that you can sit around all day and answer their questions because they're not under pressure to make a decision before your flight goes.

But if you've been denied recently, there's a good chance they'll deny you again. Not much you can do about it because they denied you for a valid reason. I suppose your only real chance is to convince them it was an innocent mistake and you have no intention to overstay this time.

A local immigration lawyer will probably be able to give you advice on how long to wait again or which POE is the best to try, because it is subjective.
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evelynNew Member
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:54 pm

denisQC, may I ask you a couple questions about your TN? Does the employment letter have to state an exact three year duration even the job is a contract one? Shall the letter state the payment method such like hourly rate or something? Thanks.
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:08 pm

evelyn wrote:denisQC, may I ask you a couple questions about your TN? Does the employment letter have to state an exact three year duration even the job is a contract one? Shall the letter state the payment method such like hourly rate or something? Thanks.


To qualify for a 3-year TN you need to specify dates on the offer letter corresponding to a 3-year term. You also need to specify compensation (either salary or hourly wage).
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evelynNew Member
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:04 pm

axolotl wrote:
evelyn wrote:denisQC, may I ask you a couple questions about your TN? Does the employment letter have to state an exact three year duration even the job is a contract one? Shall the letter state the payment method such like hourly rate or something? Thanks.


To qualify for a 3-year TN you need to specify dates on the offer letter corresponding to a 3-year term. You also need to specify compensation (either salary or hourly wage).


Thanks so much axolotl. If I specify hourly wage, do I also have to tell the weekly (or monthly) working hours, or an hourly rate is just sufficient.
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axolotlCanuckAbroad VIP
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:30 am

You probably don't need to specify the exact number of hours you will be working per week or month, but you should at least mention whether the job is full-time, part-time or contract. It's assumed that if it's a full-time job for example, you'll be working around 40 hours/week.
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:24 pm

TN-1 is very vague about work hours, the regs merely say your job offer letter must describe your "daily job duties". That's it really as far as how many hours you work per day. It's not necessary to specify exactly how many hours or whether it's full-time, merely what the "daily job duties" are.

TN-1 was aimed at cross-border workers, so it's expected that people who get it may be people like doctors and teachers who deal with a patient in one country or teach a class in one country and then go back across the border to deal with the next patient or the next class.
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:37 pm

This is not to be taken lightly. You were issued an I-275 and rendered inadmissible. Further attempts into the U.S. could be very seriously jeopardized unless you consult an immigration attorney familiar with your situation.

Remember, when CBP issues an I-275, this is just the DHS's way of saying; we are going to be nice about things and let you withdraw your TN application without facing the more severe repercussions of appearing before an immigration judge.

It does not mean you cannot reapply for TN. However, it does mean you have to be very careful with future entry attempts into the United States. This would include showing explicit immigrant intent while attempting to enter on a non-immigrant status including TN.

There was a story about 2 years ago in the summer of 2007 about 2 Ontario men who wiped out on their Seadoo and washed ashore on New York soil undocumented. They were taken into CBP custody and had to appear before an immigration judge.

That is how serious these types of encounters can get at the U.S. border and the DHS has the power to do many things under the law including deportation, expedited removal, and assigning mandatory appearances before an immigration judge.
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Re: TN after an I-275 withdrawal of app. to entry the US?

Post Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:03 am

Trying different port of entry is extremely bad idea of course, but I don't want additional risks with loosing airflight tickets / booking hotel etc. I'll bring with me copy of I-275.

Main reason for rejection was unclearly written Letter from XYZ Staffing Agency: "Web UI Developer" instead of (at least) "Software Engineering Consultant - ABC Company" (because XYZ is staffing company), plus letter from ABC Company...

I want to try by car at Niagara Falls, and I'll bring with me copy of I-275 "TN Withdrawal" report. I'll explain there that I can't risk anymore (booking hotel, air tickets, etc.)

I have new letter of employment prepared by "best in Bay area" Attorney: same garbage,
“He will design and develop Java Applications ... The position requires strong programming skills with Java and developing ... frameworks”

It was "Web UI Developer" before with same staff; it is now "Software Engineer".

Fortunately I have letter from ABC company (where staffing company "assigns" me temporaarily) with explicit words he is an excellent Computer Systems Analyst.

Too risky...

Officer at Toronto Airport said to me
1. that he/she want to see CSA in Employment Letter,
2. they do not accept letters from staffing agencies; NAFTA requires direct letters from Employer

What chances are... I want to go to Niagara, to try...

Frankly, this job has nothing to do with pure "programming"... it is mostly research (algorythm design) for distrubuted computing...
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