TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

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TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby sodaones » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:05 pm

Hi. I have been approved for 3 TN Visa's and recently applied for my 4th, with a request for 3 years. I was denied, and my current one that I have and which was good until Dec 29th/09 was revoked. The first few years I was under one company, but since moved to a company that I am on the board of directors of, and which is an S Corp in California. All of my paperwork was in order, with the sufficient amount of experience, references, etc... I attempted in May to do an early application because of my travel schedule, with a request for additional info for the new VISA. I presented the new information and a small nightmare begun. They put me in a room and detained me for around 3 hours focused on the corporate structure, even though another port of entry stated it was alright, then worked hard to intimidate me, etc... They did not provide me with the exact details as to why I was refused, and when I requested additional information they continued to intimidate me to basically to not let me know the true reason. I have very serious sponsors, and letters of support and was basically thrown off by the treatment I received. I undertsand that things happen, but after reviewing the issue, there are many mistakes that were made on their side, but knowing you can not appeal a TN I am unclear on how best to move this process forward now. Any feedback or advice, or introductions to professionals in this field would be very appreciated.

Thanks.
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Re: TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby Dremani » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:16 pm

Did you not get an official form or letter stating why you were denied another TN? It could be you applied for another one too early :?

Although port shopping is never the best option, I would try and figure out EXACTLY the reason for the denial. Then I would along with my employer correct any previous mishaps in the application in order to aviod another refusal.

Once all of my paperwork is in order, I would travel to another port of entry to avoid the nightmare you ensued during the peak TN visa processing times. Usually 8am-4pm.
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Re: TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby MC » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:40 pm

Port shopping is never a good idea.

If you apply at another port of entry, the DHS will definitely know you got refused at another port and if you are not honest with them, that could create big problems.

It sounds like you only received a verbal denial and not an I-275 or formal withdrawal request.

You engage in a risk attempting at another port but you may succeed.

If you get denied again, you may receive an I-275 and then you really need legal assistance to get it rectified.

The risk is up to you.
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Re: TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby Dremani » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:26 pm

There is nothing illegal about port shopping although I did mention its negative factors. A TN applicant that chooses another port to obtain their TN could be doing this based on circumstances such as vacationing in a different area, country or province or visitng family prior to applying at another POE.

The CBP officer may question the applicant as to why they are applying at another port and all they have to do is reveal the circumstances with all honesty. I had my F-1 (I-20) stamped between the peace bridge and pearson many times without any hassle, but then again it couldv'e been based on the fact that I'm strictly studying rather than applying for a work permit.
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Re: TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby MC » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:42 pm

If they revoked your current status, perhaps CBP thought you had immigrant intent although you did not indicate the applicable port.

I never meant to imply port shopping was bad or illegal. But I would say if you were dishonest about disclosing that, the DHS could throw a lifetime bar at you for lying.

Often, a DHS Inspector can be reluctant to overturn another officer's decision so one should be forewarned about the inherent risks and possible consequences involved in deciding on subsequent attempts.
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Re: TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby agnelson » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:58 pm

The problem is the sponsor is essentially yourself. The client should sponsor yoyu.

And port shoping will get you barred.
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Re: TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby Dremani » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:42 pm

Port shopping will get you barred if the real intent is to port shop. Like I said, if you're situation is PURELY circumstantial whereas you need to enter another POE respectively to obtain your TN, there is nothing legally wrong with that providing you have proper evidence stating your claim while being asked questions by CBP.
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Re: TN Management Consultant VISA Revoked due to corp structure

Postby roblab » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:28 am

I'm not a lawyer, but If I had to guess, the reason you've been denied is a failure to prove that your stay in the US is temporary.

Remember, when you show up at the border to get your TN, the base assumption is that you are trying to immigrate - that is you have immigrant intent. It is up to you to demonstrate that you in fact do not.

So looking at it from CBP's point of view - you've had 3 TNs - so we're looking at 3 years there, and you're after another 3 now... Things aren't looking very temporary are they?

To make matters worse, you probably have a great deal of difficulty demonstrating sufficient ties to Canada to prevent you from just staying in the US, since you've probably gone through some effort to break ties for tax reasons.

Every TN after the 2nd (unless you continue to live in Canada and just commute to the US... then you get a bit more slack at times) exponentially increases the chance of being rejected for immigrant intent.
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