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TN-visa: Driver license and Car in Virginia

Postby sanipuga on Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:45 pm

In November I started working temporarily in Virginia US a TN-visa. I brought my car with me. I know that my canadian insurance is valid for one year even if I live in US. However, when I talked to local DMV, they told that I'm required to get a Virginia driver license within 60 days even I'm not a resident, just because I'm working there. I can hold canadian license for 6 months only if I'm visiting but not working.
So can I still keep my canadian insurance if I surrender my license to get a US Virginia driver license? If it is not possible, can I get US insurance without registering the car
in US?
DMV also told me to import the car within 30 days. Should I go back to Canada and start the car import process immediately?

Here is original text from Virginia DMV
"If you are a non-resident temporarily living in Virginia, you may drive with your home state or country driver's license and license plates for no more than six months. This does not apply to commercial vehicle drivers. If you become gainfully employed, you are required to hold a Virginia driver's license.
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Postby Steven on Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:39 am

This is a situation where you would need a court to sort it out I reckon.

Having read the statute it is very narrow:

"Nonresident" means every person who is not domiciled in the Commonwealth, except: (i) any foreign corporation that is authorized to do business in the Commonwealth by the State Corporation Commission shall be a resident of the Commonwealth for the purpose of this title; in the case of corporations incorporated in the Commonwealth but doing business outside the Commonwealth, only such principal place of business or branches located within the Commonwealth shall be dealt with as residents of the Commonwealth; (ii) a person who becomes engaged in a gainful occupation in the Commonwealth for a period exceeding 60 days shall be a resident for the purposes of this title except for the purposes of Chapter 3 (§ 46.2-300 et seq.) of this title; (iii) a person, other than a nonresident student as defined in this section, who has actually resided in the Commonwealth for a period of six months, whether employed or not, or who has registered a motor vehicle, listing an address in the Commonwealth in the application for registration shall be deemed a resident for the purposes of this title, except for the purposes of the Virginia Commercial Driver's License Act (§ 46.2-341.1 et seq.).


To cut a long story short, you've got to register it in Virginia and get a licence there going by that, so you would have to formally import the car, get the title transferred, register it, get a VA DL etc.

However these are residential ties they are forcing upon you, which can affect your immigration status as TN-1 requires non-immigrant intent.

So the question would be whether Federal law trumps State law and you would need to go to court to get an answer to that one. It does sound awfully bizarre, most States treat you as a non-resident in this situation.

Reading through the statute though insurance carriers can't issue you insurance unless the car is registered there so you have no choice, because there's no way a Canadian insurance company will insure a driver licensed in VA with a VA registered vehicle.

They need to update the statute so that the exemption for "nonresident student" is broadened to include people in a non-immigrant category.

Compare this to say, Nevada, where it is very hard indeed to show that you are resident there and need a DL.

Try writing to the AG and pointing this out.

I suspect it you went to court the ruling would be that the State can have whatever rules they want, so if you have to keep an Ontario DL to maintain residential ties to Canada, sorry, you can't drive in Virginia.
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Postby sanipuga on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:04 pm

Then assume that I get a Virginia Driver License and get the car insured by US insurance company, would I have any problem in the short term if the car is not registered in VA?

I just don't want to cross the border and go back to Canada just for the sake of car import right now.
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Postby Steven on Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:57 am

The way it reads the car must be registered in Virginia in order to be insured there. But it's the driver's licence you have to get now, not sure how that affects your Ontario insurance but you could get the DL and then import and register the vehicle later.

The problem is that if you appear to be a resident of the US to CBP, then you get charged duty and sales tax. I doubt that would happen but it's obviously easier to prove you live in Canada if you still have an Ontario DL. Not sure if the DMV in Virginia take your foreign licence off you, varies from State to State.
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Postby cavalier on Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:09 am

The Virginia DMV does take your Canadian DL
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